This is one of the most jurassic, outdated and mindless set of statements I had ever read in any news in regards to sexual orientation.
http://www.dailyexpress.com.my/news.cfm?NewsID=53640
Bishops in the Anglican Church are strongly against the ordination of homosexuals in the Anglican Communion across the world, said Jill Southern, 65, from the Ellel Ministries in the United Kingdom.
Gee, I wonder why.
She said the scenario of gay pastors in same sex marriage is unusual and has caused a lot of problems.
Problems borne of self creation caused by ignorance and bigotry? So just who's problem is it? The homosexuals... or this prejudicial lady?....
"It is God's view that homosexuals should not be ordained as priests or pastors in any country because their sin separates them from God. "
I hereby challenge this old woman to state out the verse that says "homosexuals should not be ordained as priests or pastors in any country" or in any similar meaning. If she succeeds, I shall pretend to be a boy for the rest of my life. If she fails, she is to shut the fukk up because God clearly stated in the Bible (1 Timothy 2: 11 - 14).
However, the Church does not really know quite how to handle the situation.
Of course! Only churches are dumb enough to send homosexuals to ex-gay ministries!
"It is a big, hot potato in the Anglican Church. Bishops in Africa, for example, are strongly against the ordination of homosexuals," she told Daily Express. Southern said homosexuality is contrary to God's order and a sexual sin because it is rebellion against God and brings guilt and shame.
Contrary to God's order? Can you please send all the people born deformed, disabled or born without some organs to be condemned then, because all of them are surely not God's order too. The guilt and shame do not come from God my darling Jill. It comes from being imposed by ugly women like you who do not even follow God's commandment for you to shut up.
"God makes males and females, not homosexuals. Homosexuality is one form of ungodly sex like lesbianism. When we engage in ungodly sex, we are enjoining our spirit to the demonic spirit behind it, and this destroys our lives.
You cannot differentiate gender identity with sexual orientation. But you even went on to separate homosexuality and lesbianism? Gosh, from which college this lady came from, I darn am not going to recommend it! Homosexual sex as demonic? As demonic as the statements you are presenting now Missy Jill?
"Ungodly sex allows our spirit to be penetrated by the demonic power behind the ungodly act. In fact, homosexuality is self-destructive behaviour."
Actually I had not seen homosexuals self destruct. The conquer and destroy button still very much in the possession of jurassic mental disorder patients like you.
Other forms of ungodly sex are premarital sex, incest, adultery, oral sex, sodomy, masturbation, bestiality (sex with animals), trans-sexuality, masochistic and sadistic sex, bondage sex, cyber sex, voyeurism and paedophilia.
It is so easy to lump the innocents together with the defiled in your convenient thinking, right? It is also supremely shallow, especially when each of it represents different things. Gosh, I can just lump this Anglican with Mormons and call it a cult.
She was one of three key speakers from the UK and Australia to disseminate information at the two-day Seminar on Godly Sex & Sexuality.
God Bless The Attendees.
It was organised by All Saints' Cathedral in association with Ellel Ministries International (In East Asia) at the cathedral.
God Bless The Attendees From Malaysia.
Southern, who is Director of a Bible Training School run by Ellel Ministries in Pierrepont near London, however, said we can empathise with homosexuals but we are not here to judge them.
Yes. You are not judging homosexuals. You are just throwing stones and hide your hands, saying, I did not do it.
"While we don't condemn homosexuals in the eyes of God, we should also not ordain them either. We are here to say that homosexual activity is wrong and the gateway to healing for the homosexual is repentance.
Healing? I think you and your cohorts needs some serious healing not only of unsound minds and judgemental hearts, but also from heterosexual supremacist practises and behaviours.
"And if they don't recognise it as sin, they are not going to repent it."
Because it is not a sin. Do you study? Have you ever talked to homosexuals? Or you are contented on taking information from ministry by a confused hetero like RLM? Then you can have me give you tips about how to be a boy. I should know! I am an ex-boy!
According to her, there are many ex-gays today and one such is David Kyle Foster, a former homosexual prostitute in America who had over a thousand sexual "men" relationships.
Yeah. But you also forgot to mention a lot of ex-gays ended up getting married back to their partners by their core orientation. Also how a lot of ex-gays still secretly look for boys, like Ted Haggard. Or are you afraid to mention also on how many ex-gays eventually became ex-ex-gays (www.beyondexgay.com). They find healing from leaving such organized discrimination and control freaks like you.
"And God partly saved him. He repented and came for salvation. We believe God forgave him. He stopped the activity completely. He now tours the country talking to homosexuals and telling them about how they can be freed from this ungodly sex."
How to be freed? Or how to condemn themselves to surpress who they are? This man had better not be another confused hetero, or he also is going to get a mouthful from me for his misrepresentation. Anyhow, both of you. Give us equality, then mind your own business and leave us alone.
Southern, who has also authored books on Godly Sex, stressed that the "enemy" has deceived homosexuals into thinking that their activity is a sexual orientation, adding that a person's sexuality is determined by the genitalia, not his or her orientation.
The 'homosexualily do not exist' crap again? Yikes! Just how narrow minded is that! Sexuality determined by genitalia? Crikey! I got a friend who lost both his testicles and penis due to cancer recently... so he is female now and cannot get married to girls?! How OH-full....
"They are deceived and think God allows gay sex and gay marriages. A homosexual tends to believe that he is born a homosexual. I don't believe that is true. It's a lie to say you are born homosexual. It is usually a result of homosexual abuse in very early childhood when they were wrongly touched but there are other possible causes such as gender confusion and rejection by a peer group as a 'weakling'."
The 'homosexuals becoming homosexuals ' crap? So does that mean those heterosexual childred who are sexually abused in childhood are 100% bound to be homosexuals? Can you please prove that? Gender confusion? My gay friends refuse to sleep with me because I am wearing a skirt. Just how 'gender confused' are they, lady? They are deceived? Excuse me, but since you are now straight, what right have you to assume?!
It was also possible that the ungodly soul-tie with the person who wrongly touched them has become a spirit of homosexuality which now occupies them (homosexuals), she added.
Demon possession? Surely I would like the homosexual spirit, because of the Christian homosexuals I know, they show all the fruits of the spirit. But I only see people like you bearing bad fruits from your tree, darling. And I am sure, non of it is from God.
"So this spirit of homosexuality has an appetite for homosexual acts, and is using your body for its own appetite. When a homosexual person confesses and repents the sin, we can tell the spirit to leave and the homosexual desire will also go," said Southern, who has ministered into the lives of homosexuals in her country, many of whom have turned over a new leaf.
Yes, and perhaps if you repent from such judgemental heart and mindless thoughts, the spirit of heterosexuality will flee from you too.
Earlier, in her presentation, she said godly sex is sex within a covenant marriage with God's blessing and God teaches us to say "No" to ungodly sex and worldly passions.
So are you asking everyone to be celibate now?
"God created us as sexual creatures being male and female, and wants. Sex was originally God's idea. We consummate a biblical marriage. In God's perfect plan for Mankind, sex is spiritual and sex is worship of God. But sex without a marriage covenant is a curse.
That is why homosexuals want to settle down with their partners in marriage. Duh. And the male n female talk again? I pity those who are born intersexed, those females without ovaries and males who lost their testicles then. They lost God's image. So sad. That is what you are implying, is it lady?
"During sexual intercourse, two people become one as God intended. There is an intermingling of spirit, soul and body in the sexual act. Sex is therefore spiritual.
I could not agree with you more. It can be spiritual when you stop condemning consensual sexual relationships between two sane adult men.
Likewise, sex in marriage is worship where the spirit is nurtured, strengthened and built up in mutual comfort, intimacy, love and encouragement," she added.
Goodness! So you are encouraging spouse rape and non-consensual sex in marriage? How low is that? I wonder how would those couples by planned marriages feel about it.
Yuki's thoughts: Yuki has too may thoughts about this Jill Southern's pure bigoted thoughts that she is having a thoughts overload.
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