Friday, August 24, 2007

Musings about J. Michael Bailey and Edmund Smith.

J.Michael Bailey is the king of transgender junk science and misinformation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/21/health/psychology/21gender.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1187704803-yNtpC5cmocRSUtVlEhe7qw&oref=slogin

This is what happens when a person has limited or no knowledge about transgenders / transsexuals, but went on to create their own science.

Michael Bailey calls me a person who is:
1) a homosexual who is uncomfortable being with a man as a man.
(Relations to me? Even if I am not with a man, I am still a girl, but unfornately a transsexual)
2) a man who has erotic fascinations of being a woman.
(Relations to me? Well, I am sure I do not feel erotic. I know I am still a girl now, even though while writing his I am wearing jeans and a short sleeve shirt.)

This is another man, who seems to think his science is inclusive for all. There is no doubt that autogynephilia is one of the reasons a small portion might partake on transcending genders, another being some homosexuals uncomfortable with themselves. But he has mistook the smallest minority, for the majority. It seems his research only concentrates on crossdressers, not transsexuals.

I do not know this man to comment further. But my point is, this type of misinformation is often used by a greater bad. It paints some of the LGTs with stigma and dogma, and once it sticks, the opinion seldom changes.

Reminds me the prince:

Edmund Smith calls me a person who has
1) 'Self Issue towards ones gender'.
(Relations to me? I do not have any issues, I am darn sure I am a girl but with a birth defect)

Edmund's homosexuality is already questionable, described by his own testimony of his broken relationship with his father and then looking for love in the wrong places, everything that surrounds his homosexuality is environmentally constructed.

Which is why you would notice, ALL of the ex-gay stories presented by him has the same lines, broken family relationships, problems, issues growing up. It is the reason why I still stress that his experience in social constructed homosexuality would be of benefit to those like him.

The problem lies with his beliefs, that his ministry is definitely applicable to all homosexuals. He would be a destructive influence for homosexuals whose circumstances are the total opposite (great relationship with parents, normal puberty). Those with trained minds would reject him totally. But there are others, those desperate to change for an easier social life, they will land themselves in trouble.

Because Edmund's beliefs that the change he is promising is inclusive of all, some will end up an emotional and psychological mess. Especially when his 'gender confused' theory is confusing by itself; Edmund was dressed by his mother as a girl when he was young, which is probably the reason why Edmund is so convinced this is one of the 'causes' to his homosexuality.

It would also appear to be the reason why Edmund always mixes the two separate entities of homosexuality AND transgenders together. How RLM handle those who are biologically born homosexuals should be heavily scrutinized. And anymore mad sciences presented by him about transgenders should be rejected.

(Just to share, see, I am not dressed by my mom when I was young. I am not even bothered what to dress as. I just wonder what that thing sticking out of my groin is doing there, and dislike the effects it has on me.)

Real Love Ministry's education for the general public, that gays live a hurful and painful life, and the picture they paint that all gays care about is sex and fulfilling 'urges'; is way far off from the reality of homosexuals living today. RLM seems to be oblivious to the hard truth that homosexuality is just another orientation. Edmund Smith totally overlooked the fact that even heterosexuals, have sexual urges. A new ministry for heterosexuals, anyone?

3 comments:

curious said...

so ,are you a guy or a girl now? what makes you think that you are a girl trap in guys body? can you give me some examples? just to make sure that you really are born inside as a girl....Do you like the things that girls like to do, and so believes or have this conclusion that you are a girl by nature?OR do you like girls so much,too obsesses that you want to become like one too... i have no intention to insult you or anything, i m just curious about how creation's of God can turn out to be a defect or rejected as you mentioned in who you are in your blog...

Vivienne Yuki Choe said...

Yes, ask those who are born without limbs, who are born with hair all over their body, who are born wihout eyesight or hearing... yes, I am 'curious'....

Vivienne Yuki Choe said...

This is the 'curious' who commented in Scott's blog:

http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/08/23/scotts-unconditional-apology-for-any-hurt-caused-by-remarks-on-homosexuality/#comment-11264

I have two choices. One, delete such comments. Two, reason. Nah, I will choose three, fulfil 'curious's lust for self righteousness.

"curious Says:

August 30th, 2007 at 12:20 am
Yuki,why are u ‘arguing’ or watever u called it, with the ppl whom u know will not understand you even though u give thousands or billions of excuses or reasons to protect your stand as a homosexual? enough is enough….the truth will speaks itself sooner or later…..anyway who are we to judge who is right and who is wrong?

curious Says:

August 30th, 2007 at 1:09 am
will you be happy or glad or even proud of yourself if that Gay Pastor that leads service in KL managed to change the mindset of the people in accepting that gay is not a sin and eventually accept it as a norm in our society? then i guess in 10years time, our city would be so much corrupted like Sodom and Gomorrah…God destroyed Sodom because of the homosexuality….and read leviticus 20: 13.” if a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman,both of them have done what is detestable,they must be put to death.their blood will be on their own head.” here refers to HOMOSEXUALITY” in case u don’t understand….

curious Says:

August 30th, 2007 at 1:31 am
Everyone, i felt sorry for those who are no longer associated as a Christian, a lost sheep, if i can refer to as….but I just want you to read again the bible on leviticus 19:18 ” Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people,but love your neighbour as yourself.” Upon reading all your comment,I know that most of you all have the bible knowledge (assuming) but don’t just read it (siapa makan cili, dia akan terasa pedas), u should also meditate on it, and relate or practice it in your daily lives…

curious Says:

August 30th, 2007 at 1:46 am
“Let us jusy SAY homosexuality is wrong by principle, there are also more things that the Bible says that are against a lot of things, which no one applies today.”

can you give me some examples things that the bible says and that no one applies it nowadays? I thought only God knows that ??? or are you referring it to the the small world only you are living in it ? since I don care about respecting other people’s beliefs, and I only believe in God and the bible…nothing is more important than that..so you can or better still, save your time or money (mine too) if you wana talk to me on other craps about you own belief and its not related to the bible at all.THANKS BUT NO THANKS….

curious Says:

August 30th, 2007 at 2:32 am
Scott, I admired that you have a humble and gentle heart in apologizing about your comments or wat so ever things that you have done wrong…no one is perfect ,rite? since all of us are sinners , and we may not have the right to judge others but as brother and sister in Christ , we do have the right to rebuke or teach each other as the bible says in 2 timothy 2: 24 ” and the Lord’s servant must not quarrel: instead, he must be kind to everyone,able to TEACH,not resentful.” also be firm in the word of GOD if people questioned you about bible verse, when the bible itself says in 2 timothy 3: 16 “All scripture is God ’s breathed and is useful for teaching,rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness. so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. ”

SO ,do your best to present your self to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. avoid godless chatter because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly…..2 timothy 2: 15-16…

MAy God be with you always…..remember also “Do not be deceived, God cannot be mocked.A man reaps what he sows.The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from the nature will reap destruction……galatians 6 : 7-10

Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil.romans 14: 16

Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves.Romans 14: 22….amen….Shalom…."

YukiChoe Says:

August 30th, 2007 at 3:19 am
My stand now is… I am really too tired with people. People who contradict themselves. I accepted the fact that people would be too engrossed in judging others by measure of what they do not understand. They end up seeking comfort in religion, YES RELIGION, not the spirit of the law in which Christ judges a person’s heart and mind. Which is why I do not wish to be Christian identified. I find the some ‘christians’ around me delusional, always seeking comfort and justification in their insecurities like ‘curious’.

I am tired… of people defining God for others as a tool of bigotry. Here is one ‘curious’, so curious that he do not know the old Leviticus laws other than that that ‘condemns’ homosexuals. You REALLY only know Lev 20:13, ‘curious’?

Why DONT YOU SHUT UP until you know in LEV 20 itself:

Leviticus 20:9 - Where you deserve to DIE if you ever scold your parents?
Leviticus 20:10 - Where so many people deserve DEATH have a second girlfriend after their wives? (Why DON’T you condemn them instead?)
Levitivus 20: 18 - Where SO MANY MEN have sex with their partners during their period and deserve CONDEMNATION?

Enough? Let us play with the old Deutronomy laws!

Deutronomy 22: 11 - What the hell are you wearing now?
Deutronomy 22: 12 - Where are your tassels?
Deutronomy 22: 20 - Find all the NON virgins on their wedding night and KILL THEM, SAYS GOD!

IF you know your BIBLE, you are not supposed to EAT PIGS AS WELL! KILL all those who work on SUNDAYS! Exodus 31:15.

If you are a girl, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SHUT UP! YA THANKS BUT NO THANKS!

Thank you for 2 Timothy 3: 16, I reserve the right to REBUKE YOU FOR YOUR JUDGEMENTAL HEART!

And if you know me and you know science, I AM NOT A HOMOSEXUAL! I AM A BISEXUAL! so again, SHUT UP!

(I am really in a foul mood listening to these imbeciles, Scott. You deserve my apology for snapping up again. But you would realise now the frustration that LGTs have to live with, everyday, till they leave this earth.)

YukiChoe Says:

August 30th, 2007 at 3:24 am
“u should also meditate on it, and relate or practice it in your daily lives…”

YES CURIOUS! GO AND KILL PEOPLE WHO WORK IN MC DONALD’S, WATSONS, ALL OVER THE MALLS! KILL ALL THOSE IGNORANT LITTLE CHILDREN! SAYS GOD! YA MEDITATE, THEN KILL! BE SELF RIGHTEOUS!